-----Original Message-----
From: Richard, Ioan (Councillor)
Sent: 25 January 2007 22:58
Subject: TRENCH WARFARE - are you up for it? I am !!!!!!
TRENCH WARFARE – are you up for it? I am seriously in favour of it !!!! A couple of our colleagues have come up with an idea and I am pursuing it. They suggested that we print out dozens of Forms as below – see example Form below. They then suggest that at EVERY Committee one of our members completes the appropriate blanks and hands it to the Minute Clerk directly at the end of the meeting to be passed on to Georgie Thomas.
See the Form below - it is self explanatory.
This will mean that at the very next Committee – and if we continue the process EVERY COMMITTEE THEREAFTER INTO THE FUTURE – will have on its AGENDA for the start of every meeting the “Election of Chairman and Vice Chairman”. This has enormous implications of inconvenience to Labour and Tories and Plaid Cymru. It means they will have to muster up a MAJORITY at EVERY COMMITTEE.
If not we take the Chair and Vice Chair back for a 3 or 4 weeks cycle. If we succeed only once in five goes we will get 20% of their Special Responsibility Allowance eg 20% of a Chair’s £9,000 is £1,800 – an amount not to be scoffed at, and it will really inconvenience the other lot and annoy them enormously.
They have:- several members in serious ill health; one Globetrotter on Local Government business; one the Ombudsman may soon suspend; several who cannot get time off work for every meeting; some who are just lazy; others who may be on holiday; some who may need to go on private business e.g. a family funeral; others may just be late in a traffic jam or just temporarily sick with nasty Flu bout etc... It really would cause them very serious havoc problems and give us back a couple of thousand £ pounds a year. I know I am going to seriously miss my Chairman’s Allowance as my pension is very small.
I have discussed this briefly with David Daycock and he says he will have to check out the legality of it, BUT he said off the top of his head he saw nothing to prevent us doing it. I have already discussed it with several colleagues.
Most think it’s a brilliant idea, but a few thought it childish or not worth it.
Well I’m going to do it for the Licensing Committee – so let’s all do it all the time until something big changes. Your opinions are needed urgently.
We need David Daycock to give a serious legal opinion if this is a constitutional action we can take. I’m not interested in any boring comments from any “fuddy duddys” who say it would be childish. If I can inconvenience the new “cabal” and get paid for it that’s OK by me. Your urgent opinions-please.
If I don’t do this I’m going to go back part time Casual Supply teaching for £140 per day for a 5 hour day – I am still fully Registered with the Teaching Council (Wales) as a Chemistry & Maths & Physics teacher – I could get plenty of work for those subjects and stay away from Council to do it – not that I want to do that – but if I cannot claw back some of my allowance I will have to get some extra money from somewhere. OK
SEE EXAMPLE “FORM” BELOW >>>>
To Mrs Georgie Thomas,
Head of Democratic Services,
County Hall,
Swansea.
Date………………………….
Dear Mrs Thomas,
Please can you lay the items below on the Agenda of :-
the next …………………………………………………………….Committee Meeting :-
(1) Election of Chairman;
(2) Election of Vice Chairman.
Thank you
Signed…………………………………………………………… Councillor
Printed Name……………………………………………………
Address C/O Members’ Services Offfice, County Hall, Swansea.
From: Richard, Ioan (Councillor)
Sent: 25 January 2007 22:58
Subject: TRENCH WARFARE - are you up for it? I am !!!!!!
TRENCH WARFARE – are you up for it? I am seriously in favour of it !!!! A couple of our colleagues have come up with an idea and I am pursuing it. They suggested that we print out dozens of Forms as below – see example Form below. They then suggest that at EVERY Committee one of our members completes the appropriate blanks and hands it to the Minute Clerk directly at the end of the meeting to be passed on to Georgie Thomas.
See the Form below - it is self explanatory.
This will mean that at the very next Committee – and if we continue the process EVERY COMMITTEE THEREAFTER INTO THE FUTURE – will have on its AGENDA for the start of every meeting the “Election of Chairman and Vice Chairman”. This has enormous implications of inconvenience to Labour and Tories and Plaid Cymru. It means they will have to muster up a MAJORITY at EVERY COMMITTEE.
If not we take the Chair and Vice Chair back for a 3 or 4 weeks cycle. If we succeed only once in five goes we will get 20% of their Special Responsibility Allowance eg 20% of a Chair’s £9,000 is £1,800 – an amount not to be scoffed at, and it will really inconvenience the other lot and annoy them enormously.
They have:- several members in serious ill health; one Globetrotter on Local Government business; one the Ombudsman may soon suspend; several who cannot get time off work for every meeting; some who are just lazy; others who may be on holiday; some who may need to go on private business e.g. a family funeral; others may just be late in a traffic jam or just temporarily sick with nasty Flu bout etc... It really would cause them very serious havoc problems and give us back a couple of thousand £ pounds a year. I know I am going to seriously miss my Chairman’s Allowance as my pension is very small.
I have discussed this briefly with David Daycock and he says he will have to check out the legality of it, BUT he said off the top of his head he saw nothing to prevent us doing it. I have already discussed it with several colleagues.
Most think it’s a brilliant idea, but a few thought it childish or not worth it.
Well I’m going to do it for the Licensing Committee – so let’s all do it all the time until something big changes. Your opinions are needed urgently.
We need David Daycock to give a serious legal opinion if this is a constitutional action we can take. I’m not interested in any boring comments from any “fuddy duddys” who say it would be childish. If I can inconvenience the new “cabal” and get paid for it that’s OK by me. Your urgent opinions-please.
If I don’t do this I’m going to go back part time Casual Supply teaching for £140 per day for a 5 hour day – I am still fully Registered with the Teaching Council (Wales) as a Chemistry & Maths & Physics teacher – I could get plenty of work for those subjects and stay away from Council to do it – not that I want to do that – but if I cannot claw back some of my allowance I will have to get some extra money from somewhere. OK
SEE EXAMPLE “FORM” BELOW >>>>
To Mrs Georgie Thomas,
Head of Democratic Services,
County Hall,
Swansea.
Date………………………….
Dear Mrs Thomas,
Please can you lay the items below on the Agenda of :-
the next …………………………………………………………….Committee Meeting :-
(1) Election of Chairman;
(2) Election of Vice Chairman.
Thank you
Signed…………………………………………………………… Councillor
Printed Name……………………………………………………
Address C/O Members’ Services Offfice, County Hall, Swansea.
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